WINE TALK: Value vs Prestige
At last count I have tasted over 3,000 wines, 800 beers and 500 different spirits this year. I do this because tasting is the only way to determine for myself if I can ask our staff to stand behind a product like I would. The result is a lot of wine and beer hits our shelves throughout the year that you won’t find anywhere else. The other effect is that it pushes some the of the ‘leading’ brands off our shelves.
Then Christmas hits, and for some reason we are moved by the lure of traditional giants that can sell huge quantities each Christmas. I speak of brands like Bailey’s, Smirnoff, Captain Morgan’s Spiced Rum, Crown Royal… you get the picture.
This week I had some unsettling and remarkable conversations with the promoters of these brands. I heard myself saying sure I can give you space in the flyer and on the floor, but it just didn’t sit right.
I went back and sat down with some close friends and did a tasting of these products against competitive brands that are often overshadowed by these behemoths. In every case we preferred the alternatives to the big brands, yet I still needed some reassurance. If we are going to promote the alternatives over the ‘leading’ brands we need to be sure that the customer will appreciate our decision to. I issued a few twitter polls and the couple of hundred respondents inspired me to move forward and promote the brands we prefer vs. the traditional customer favourite.
Now I did receive a lot of tweets stating personal preferences for items that although significantly better, they were not in the same price range so here is what we decided to go with and the prices for each product in relation to the ‘leading’ brand.
Vodka
Leading Brand: Smirnoff Vodka Red Label $23.99
Contenders: Banff Ice Vodka ($21.99), Russian Standard ($24.99), Polar Ice ($23.99), Absolut ($24.99), Stolichnya ($24.99)
For overall price and quality we chose the Banff Ice Vodka 750ml. As smooth if not smoother than Smirnoff, and more viscosity when frozen.
In terms of quality within range of the Smirnoff price we found the Russian Standard Vodka totally kicked butt. Quadruple distilling vs triple for Smirnoff, made Russian Standard ridiculously smooth for the price. A hint of citrus and minerals in the flavour made it really tasty frozen, but its body made it great for cocktails.
Leading Brand: Bailey’s Irish Cream $25.99
Contenders: Feeney’s Irish Cream ($22.99- on sale for Dec. ), Carolan’s Irish Cream ($24.99), O’Darby’s Irish Cream ($23.99)
Like the Vodka’s we did a blind tasting of each of these products. We were looking for a few things- overall taste, price, weight, balance & sweetness… plus which one would be best in a coffee or tea on Christmas morning. Setting up the Christmas tree and fire place was the hardest part in getting this tasting ready.
I have to say the results were really surprising as the winner turned out to be a brand that has been around for years and has been flying under the radar.
On all accounts the product preferred was the Feeney’s Irish Cream. Delightful balance in terms of weight and richness, and it wasn’t too sweet. When put in a coffee it was every bit as good as Bailey’s but got higher points for the significant price difference.
The product that came in second was Carolan’s. The only knock on the Carolan’s as it is very competitively priced, was that we found it a little sweet.
Tied was Bailey’s and O’Darbys. Remarkably they seemed identical to each other.
Leading Brand: Captain Morgan’s Spiced Rum $25.99 (On-Sale for December; regular $26.99)
Contender: Sailor Jerry’s Spiced Rum ($27.99)
The vast majority of the ’spices’ that flavour these rums (99%) is Vanilla. For the tasting panel we were looking for a balance between the ’spice’ and the flavours of the rum. We all have a great appreciation of the toffee, caramel and ‘brown’ sugar nuances in quality rum. In order to get a full appreciation of the product not only did we taste them in a blind tasting, we also tasted them on their own, over ice with a squeeze of lime and in Egg Nogg.
In all instances Sailor Jerry’s beat out Captain Morgan’s. We all agreed that the quality difference was significant enough to pay the extra couple of bucks.
The last round of products that we tasted was Canadian Whisky or Rye. For whisky lovers around the world Canadian Whisky is highly sought after. As Jim Murray of the ‘Whisky Bible’ says, “only Canadians don’t appreciate Canadian Whisky.” I would suggest that this is why one of his most favoured Whisky’s each year is a Canadian Whisky and only $24.
Leading Brand: Crown Royal 750ml ($26.99)
Contenders: Canadian Club ($21.99), Wiser’s Deluxe ($26.99), Alberta Premium ($23.99)
Like all the others we tasted these blind. One of the key characteristics that defines Canadian Whisky is the renowned smoothness and relatively light body that a Canadian Whisky has in comparison to a Scotch or Bourbon. Canadian Whisky’s are aged longer than Bourbon’s and contain more Rye malt than Scotch, both of which lead to its unique flavour, body and smoothness.
Armed with this knowledge we pushed forward into the task at hand. Not only did we taste each one on its own, but also over ice, and with a mixer of Coke and a mixer of Ginger Ale.
When taking into consideration overall quality, diversity and, of course, price we all agreed that Canadian Club out performed the rest. Having said that it was a tough choice between the Canadian Club and Alberta Premium, Canadian Club got the nod due to price.
Both Crown Royal and Wiser’s are well made but didn’t give the Wow we were looking for from a product $3-$5 more than its competitor’s.
The one caveat that I will leave you with is that everyone’s palate is unique and I strongly urge you to not only explore the variety that is out there but also be true to your own palate. Don’t be swayed by me or the advertising that is out there. Be true to yourself.
Cheers
Rod Phillips- Buyer, Liquor Plus




Wednesday, 9. December 2009 11:31
Hello,
Just thought I’d point out that clearly you must of missed Gibson’s Finest Canadian Whisky while tasting whiskys as you did not comment on it. It is hands down the best Canadian Whisky there is and I am surprised that you are not aware of it.
I actually did a blind taste test with a few of my friends and we all thought that when we were sipping Gibson’s, that it was Crown Royal because it was the smoothest with a pleasant flavour. We had mistaken it for Crown because Crown has the best reputation. But Gibson’s was by far the preferred whisky.
I’m quite surprised that Alberta Premium made it on the list and Gibson’s did not. Canadian Club is probably the harshest whisky I have ever tasted and smells and rubbing alcohol. Wisers is not much better.
Thanks,
Mel
Wednesday, 9. December 2009 13:04
Mel
Thanks for you comments on the Rye’s. You are correct in that we missed the Gibson’s however the 12 Year is out of stock for the coming months so I didn’t include it in the tasting. As for the Canadian Club, I think that you have pointed to something that is central to this tasting and all the tastings thate we do. Trusting your own taste is vital to improving your quality of life through libations. Although I did not find the same flavours and aromas as you did, I greatly appreciate your honesty.
Cheers
Rod Phillips
Buyer
Wednesday, 9. December 2009 15:33
Hello Rod!
Loved your thoughts and oppinions, and I could not agree more! We just went to stock up for the holidays and wouldn’t you know that we bought both Carolans and Canadian club. I have felt for years that you ARE paying for a brand not the product and therfore we have bought what we enjoy rather than what is perhaps more “known”. It works for us!
Happy Holidays
Leona
Wednesday, 9. December 2009 20:44
Interesting post. My friends and I did something similar with beer. We’re all beer snobs and we love all of the local microbrews. But we wanted to find out what was the best of the “swill”. I can’t remember all of the brands that we tried but if I recall they included: Molson Canadian, Labbats Blue, Lucky, Kokanee, Budweiser, Miller and a few others.
The results from a blind tasting: Lucky and Budweiser came out on top.
Monday, 14. December 2009 18:23
I find it interesting that the products that are conveniently the ones you have the biggest profit margins on are on your “favorites” list. From everything I have heard and experienced myself these are all fabrications. Thanks for the post.
Monday, 14. December 2009 19:37
Dear Clark Kent
Wow that is quite the accusation. I don’t fault anyone for having a contrary opinion in terms of taste, however your other assertions I take offense to. By the way they are wrong! The bottom line is created by cash and we make more cash by selling a bottle of Bailey’s Irish Cream or Crown Royal than Feeneys or Canadian Club any day. These tastings were blind and factual. Thanks for the post.
Rod Phillips
Buyer
Friday, 18. December 2009 1:01
This was a great posting and I appreciate the discussion behind your selections, Rod. I believe I would have selected many of the same.
Interestingly, I remember some international scotch expert and his top pick was Ardbeg 10 year ($92 @ BCLS) but he mentioned that Alberta Premium was the highest rated Canadian rye.
As for a Bailey’s alternative, see if you can find some Sheridan’s. Its rather distinguished in its split bottle, with the white cream on the left and the coffee liquor is on the right. Its got a fantastic smooth flavour and the “wow” factor when the white cream mixes with the liquor. Here’s a video .
The Polish vodka Luksusowa is another option or something you should at least assess.
Now, as you know, being the Western Administrator for RateBeer.com – I am keenly interested in your top picks for beers.
All the best wished for the holidays and New Year.
Todd
Thursday, 31. December 2009 19:24
@ToddB Thanks for the tip on Luksusowa. I have done some poking around on the net and it is rated VERY well. That will be the next bottle I purchase. Will be a nice change to drink some potato vodka.